tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765243585194738114.post3585739449921180665..comments2023-11-21T10:49:05.724+00:00Comments on Fluff on the Needle: 'That brutal selfish ill-mannered bounder ... that brute Coates'Jolyon50http://www.blogger.com/profile/01331882838796428888noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765243585194738114.post-7448155540624230252017-03-31T09:25:55.893+01:002017-03-31T09:25:55.893+01:00Sorry I missed your analysis of the number of side...Sorry I missed your analysis of the number of sides and took so long to reply.<br /><br />You are quite right on the this, heaven knows really what the 'plan' was but at least we have something. Short measure is mentioned in The Gramophone on various pieces but this I think was a developing situation as the recording companies got out of snippets and into complete works. The commercial risks was likely to be considerable for some of these recordings of the more unorthodox stuff. I recently read that Misical Comedy became less experimental and lighter by 1918 as a result of the war. I suggest the classical world would have replicated this conservatism to some extent and nu 1919/20 the tecording companies were begining to find their feet again. Questions, questions, questions.<br /><br />JolsJolyon50https://www.blogger.com/profile/01331882838796428888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765243585194738114.post-29774418507874869912017-02-13T15:55:48.786+00:002017-02-13T15:55:48.786+00:00You suggest that perhaps the recording didn't ...You suggest that perhaps the recording didn't stretch to six sides because there might have been concern that some of the middle sides would have been rather short measure. On 11 Dec 1919 Coates recorded the 4th movement of Rimsky-Korsakov's Scheherezade for Columbia, across 4 sides. The timings are 3:13, 2:44, 1:21 and 3:35. I don't know if there was any public reaction, particularly to that very brief 3rd side. It makes me wonder if the were already absolutely determined to use the Lecocq as a filler, and were not prepared to lose it to expand the Scriabin to a full 6 sides. Of course they might have considered re-recording the 5th side, starting at figure 30 in the score (where side 4 ended), as currently side 5 is only 3:22, compared to 4:30 for side 3.<br /><br />Such are the idle dreams of those of us who study old recordings. Coates's first recording session, for example, on 6 August 1919 was devoted to Tchaikovsky's Romeo and Juliet across 6 sides, 2 takes each, but went unissued. At least he recorded issued versions for HMV and DECCA. But his early HMV sessions included a Brahms 1st Symphony on 7 sides (presumably abridged) which never saw the light of day. His abridged acoustic recording of Beethoven 7 was issued, but sessions in October 1925 saw him record the work in full for the microphone, again unissued. On 23rd August 1926 18 sides were recorded from a live performance of Elijah with soloists including Florence Austral, Edna Thornton, Gladys Ripley, Frank Webster and Edward Halland, but only 2 choruses were issued.<br /><br />Still, I'm so grateful for the tremendous recorded legacy he did leave us.Damians78shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02972142384277109994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765243585194738114.post-84329659264063576672013-11-04T21:18:55.609+00:002013-11-04T21:18:55.609+00:00Interestingly, considering how Coates torpedoed th...Interestingly, considering how Coates torpedoed the premiere of the Elgar concerto, Coates's grand-daughter, Tanya Prochazka, is a professional cellist (and a very good one).<br /><br />I've heard her play the Dvorak but, alas, not the Elgar...dgrbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06669092166616448237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765243585194738114.post-45322886080723742472013-10-14T23:03:03.393+01:002013-10-14T23:03:03.393+01:00Ta Eric
Moving historical recordings away from di...Ta Eric<br /><br />Moving historical recordings away from dilettante collecting and into a legitimate source worthy of study is always going to be a serious challenge. I think this change of direction is happening today by leaps and bounds<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />JolyonJolyon50https://www.blogger.com/profile/01331882838796428888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765243585194738114.post-17098469823580528782013-10-14T21:27:06.006+01:002013-10-14T21:27:06.006+01:00I agree with the other commenters (is that a word?...I agree with the other commenters (is that a word??) that what elevates many of the recordings from being just curios are the essays and graphics that put everything in context and make for enjoyable reading.<br />Thank youErichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11869894623354298880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765243585194738114.post-47114695207656512332013-10-14T15:03:25.868+01:002013-10-14T15:03:25.868+01:00Thanks Satyr
Glad you like my prose - nice to giv...Thanks Satyr<br /><br />Glad you like my prose - nice to give the recordings some context<br /><br />Best wishes<br /><br />JolsJolyon50https://www.blogger.com/profile/01331882838796428888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765243585194738114.post-24252223498340181212013-10-13T22:32:57.994+01:002013-10-13T22:32:57.994+01:00I love your combination of writing and (very inter...I love your combination of writing and (very interesting) recordings, so I don't mind at all if you write more! Thanks again for this recording and all the verry interesting information!~<br />Greetz, SatyrSatyrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14882844330262516582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765243585194738114.post-28127476702912240372013-10-13T19:33:59.826+01:002013-10-13T19:33:59.826+01:00Thanks Buster
I could have written even more but ...Thanks Buster<br /><br />I could have written even more but 'my public' might get overload - my wife would think I'd gone even more silly!<br /><br />JolsJolyon50https://www.blogger.com/profile/01331882838796428888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765243585194738114.post-64362239911800464452013-10-13T19:30:16.719+01:002013-10-13T19:30:16.719+01:00Fascinating information, Jols - thanks, as always....Fascinating information, Jols - thanks, as always.Busterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08918896767504950096noreply@blogger.com